A newly discovered mystery in Red Dead Redemption 2 could finally hold the key to solving one of Rockstar’s longest-running unsolved puzzles: the Mt. Chiliad mystery in Grand Theft Auto V.
For more than 12 years, GTA V players have attempted to decode the meaning of the Mt. Chiliad mural, a cryptic wall carving hidden inside a cable car station atop the mountain. Despite countless theories involving UFOs, eggs, jetpacks, and secret triggers, no explanation has ever been definitively confirmed by Rockstar.
Now, new findings suggest the answer may never have been confined to GTA V alone.
How RDR2 Spider Dream connects to GTA V
In a recent breakdown, mystery-focused YouTuber Oddheader reported that the newly uncovered “Spider Dream Mystery” in Red Dead Redemption 2 appears to directly mirror unexplained assets that have existed around Mt. Chiliad since GTA V launched in 2013.
Oddheader pointed out that GTA V contains two unusual spider webs located on Mt. Chiliad that only appear between 1 and 2 a.m. One of those webs sits directly beneath the cable car station that houses the Chiliad mural itself. Despite appearing unfinished, the webs have remained untouched for more than a decade, even as Rockstar patched or removed other environmental elements over time.
What makes the connection more compelling is how those webs were created. Dataminers have found that both GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2 use the same cable shader to render the spider webs, meaning Rockstar intentionally recreated the effect across two different games released five years apart.
According to Oddheader, this undermines the long-standing belief that the webs were simply abandoned or unfinished assets.
The Spider Dream Mystery in Red Dead Redemption 2 expands on that idea. Players recently discovered eight spider webs across the RDR2 map that only appear during narrow nighttime windows. Each web features a shootable feather, labeled “spiderdream” in the game’s files, and all of them appear to be mapped out by a carved spider symbol on a nearby telephone pole.
At the center of those locations, players found a unique web that appears earlier than the others and aligns with nearby telephone poles to form directional markings. Following those clues has led to carvings reading “W” and “NW,” though the trail has halted as the search continues for whatever Guitar NW means.
Rockstar has quietly linked mysteries across games before. A strange number sequence first discovered in Red Dead Redemption 2 later reappeared in GTA Online through the Madam Nazar arcade machine, which includes a fortune referencing a tangled web that remains unsolved after years of unraveling.
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